Comments on: Programs using the root window considered obsolete in KDE4

By: Zachery Merhar

Zachery Merhar — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:06:47 +0000

I had the same Problem, so i switched from KDE to GNOME.
That’s the good on Linux you have always another way.

By: Rob

Rob — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:00:28 +0000

@seifer & olga: amor manages to put 1 little Tux on the screen. I have a vague memory of having lemmings like penguin scenes, made by some type of hack to it.

Perhaps a multi-tux, and snow creature version of amor would be doable?

By: Rob

Rob — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:47:37 +0000

@seife : “Additionally, I strongly detest such “vendor lockin” and I’d prefer trivial stuff to be desktop-agnostic.”
Right on! It’s really annoying when stuff gets down via “quick fixes” in GNOME & KDE applets, which ought to be done right at a lower level, that worked generally on all systems.

By: Rob

Rob — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:44:01 +0000

@Stefan & Markus : Whilst I can understand your point of view about snow & penguins, this has much more serious aspects.
This will mean the sysadmin cannot have fun with their luser’s using xmelt, xpusher and xroach etc. That has to be regarded with the utmost gravity!

By: Markus

Markus — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:31:57 +0000

GNOME 3.0 is currently in beta and can be used right now.
Heck, why is a clueless person like you even aggregated on Planet SUSE?

By: seife

seife — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:26:32 +0000

Unfortunately it is pretty hard to exchange the graphics chip on a notebook mainboard (I have the possibility to do BGA soldering, but there is more to it than just changing the chip).

GNOME 3.0 is probably many years away, so I’ll worry about that once it is no longer vapourware

By: Markus

Markus — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:36:01 +0000

You should check whether GNOME 3.0 will support your antique apps. As an alternative you could try to run screen mates for Windows using Wine.

BTW, the cheapest graphics card available these days it more than enough for KWin effects.

By: seife

seife — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:43:34 +0000

Stefan: you can tell your users what you want, but my users expect their machines to be cozy and warm during December. They *expect* the SUSE icy-penguin boot screen during Winter and they are used to xsnow.

Now seeing that they still run KDE3 and 11.0, switching to a “completely different Desktop” is unavoidable anyway. So It won’t matter if it is KDE4 or GNOME.

And if I wanted them to only get work done, I’d give them a sanely configured fvwm2, and no KDE at all.

After all, the reason why nobody is allowed to use the root window anymore is bling, not useful functionality

By: seife

seife — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:39:23 +0000

Olga: Even if I could use the kwin effect, that would not help xroach and xteddy

By: seife

seife — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:36:35 +0000

“porting to a kwin effect” is not a useful advice, because on older machines I cannot use KDE4 because it unfortunately is much slower than everything else (it’s not really annoying on an 1GB Pentium M or bigger, but see http://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2009/11/28/extreme-updating/ for a machine that really slows to a crawl with KDE4).

Additionally, I strongly detest such “vendor lockin” and I’d prefer trivial stuff to be desktop-agnostic.